Dave Stieb was born on July 22, 1957, in Santa Ana, California. ", "Always happy with your work! The Book: Playing the Percentages in Baseball, Did not play in major or minor leagues (Did Not Play), Salaries may not be complete (especially pre-1985) and may not include some earned bonuses, Note, this is done in an automated way, so we apologize for any errors, & please. Dave Stieb's age is 65. "I like rock and roll and heavy metal. Send. You promised a quality job and that is what we got. They kept the equipment well organized. Wa-Pai-Shone 'Stremmel Gallery' by Mark Mack. He fields his position well. But, says Jones, "the scouts couldn't know when he was going to pitch because we never did." In his third start this season, on a blustery April night in Yankee Stadium, Stieb was experiencing one of those games that can imperil a pitcher's sanity. The next year, when he finished at 12-15, he played in the All Star Game. the official stats partner of the NBA, NHL and MLB. We are very please and will definitely call Mastercraft if we have needs in the future", "Very easy to work with. "Of course, in the past, I don't know how I would've reacted to a game like that.". Dave Stieb's struggle is universal, gut wrenching, and inspiring. With all the mistakes leading to runs, it's a testing type of circumstance, a challenge." We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. It is just too bad they don't pave . ", Stieb acknowledges that the brush with Martinez was instructive. Fans lining up for autographs in Vancouver found a more mellow Stieb than the version they once saw on the mound. They both were clean and polite", "Excellent work from beginning to end. vs. BAL 6.0 IP, 6 H, 5 SO, 2 BB, 5 ER, L, Last Game: ", An astute decision it was. The first 10,000 fans will receive a Stieb Bobblehead", "Catching up with Blue Jays legend Dave Stieb about his new life and improbable comeback", "How Much Watching Time Do You Have This Weekend? the most among any pitcher. Born in Santa Ana, California, Stieb played varsity baseball at Southern Illinois University[1] as an outfielder. 13901 Parkway Commons Dr. Suite A, Oklahoma City, OK 73134. They see their boy out there pitching and say, 'Oh boy, isn't that great.' I never had a lesson. Dave Stieb spent parts of 16 seasons in the majors from 1979 through 1998 with 15 of those seasons coming with the Toronto Blue Jays. "The biggest thing to look at is the kind of team he was on (the Detroit Tigers) and the kind of team I was on, Stieb said. It's also available for football, basketball and hockey. His pitching surprised and convinced the Blue Jays to draft him. He keeps the ball down. Thanks to Jesse, Travis and Colt, very efficient & professional. Im sure we will be back in the future", "We were fully satisfied with all aspects of the service. Stieb is the subject of the 2022 four-part miniseries Captain Ahab: The Story of Dave Stieb, by Secret Base's Jon Bois and Alex Rubenstein; in addition to discussing his career, it advocates for his induction into the National Baseball Hall of Fame based on his accomplishments.[21]. To this day, we debate what it all meant, and where his legacy bel. We didn't monkey around with his mechanics at all. For Stieb, fun was flying close to the flame. Much of the play-by-play, game results, and transaction information both shown and used to create certain data sets was obtained free of charge from and is copyrighted by RetroSheet. You don't know what I'm going to say.' I was almost reluctant to go." The brushback pitch was an integral part of his repertoire to back batters off the plate,[16] and was especially tough on right-handed hitters in this respect. 2023 Mastercraft Painting & Decorating, Inc., Rights Reserved. To apply for a job with Ward Construction, please send a cover letter together with your C.V. to: Ward@wardconst.com. It is a convivial conversation. [19] After his career in baseball, he has taken up the electric guitar. This is the almost unbelievable story of the man who put the Toronto Blue Jays on the map. You do a great job. ", "Keep doing what you are doing. They had come to the Eastern Illinois University campus specifically to scout this Southern Illinois outfielder. 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Injuries also played a role in curtailing Stiebs career and preventing him from accumulating more of the counting stats Hall of Fame voters so value. The guys also very pleasant and answered all my questions. "Like Lemon," says Widmar, "Dave knows how tough it is to hit. "Then," he says, "I'll be done with that career.". Jon Bois humanizes Stieb's experience, showing what a class act he became despite the crushing blows he faced. At one point in the Stieb-Blue Jays wars, Trent Frayne of The Toronto Sun wrote, "Stieb often leaves the impression that pitching in Toronto is like playing for the Bangkok Beavers." We are 100% satisfied with the excellent quality of work. But he, arguably, should also be a member of the Baseball Hall of Fame. As we'll demonstrate shortly, by a variety of metrics Dave Stieb was the best pitcher in baseball for at least a four-year period, from 1982-85. In 1985, Stieb signed with the Blue Jays what was then one of the richest contracts in baseball. [6] On August 4, 1989, he had a perfect game broken up with two outs in the ninth. [9] But arguably his best pitch was his slider that had a late and very sharp break, especially difficult for right-handed batters to handle. But his fierce intensity was also the engine of his success. In the summer of 1978, as a concession to Stieb's lingering outfielder's sensibility, the Blue Jays assigned him to Dunedin as a combination pitcher-outfielder, instructing Manager Denis Menke to play him as a designated hitter the day after he pitched and as an outfielder in the other games between starts. Butera said Stieb should tell the Jays he was ready to pitch again. Wear Tuxedos - would be a nice touch", "We appreciate being listened to as our ideas about what we wanted changed. Genuinely one of the most life-affirming pieces of storytelling to come out this year. The merging of Reno Building and Boyd Construction Company is a transformational moment that unites two highly-respected and complementary companies Learn More. Watch. [4] Previously, on September 24 and 30, 1988, Stieb had no-hitters broken up with two outs and two strikes in the top of the ninth inning in two consecutive starts. "I didn't like his swing," says Mattick. "I was living in Lake Tahoe and just loving life and being with my kids and stuff, Stieb said. The quality of their work was excellent! He smiled. In the next one he'll be a . "He was shaking his head yes before I said a word. Friends come to jam. And I had bad habits, and I wouldn't sit down and practise the things that you needed to. Thank you", "Good work - Fairly Priced! He was a natural, one in a million. Found you on Angies List, good recommendations", "Jesse and his crew were very professional, courteous, and hard workers. An emotional journey through charts, graphs and near no-hitters tracking the unfortunate plight of one mans very bizarre career. What it told me was in (the writers) minds, I didn't even do anything worth recognizing.. The job stayed within budget with no cost overruns", "They met their 4-day job estimate. "After working with Stieb for a day or two, Mark told me Dave already had a better breaking ball than any of our starters. Time is running out. This is a skill attributable to his outfielding experience. Stieb pitched to a 2.78 ERA over 12 games in the minors. Stieb's autobiography, Tomorrow I'll Be Perfect, was co-written with Kevin Boland and released in 1986. Baseball doesn't define me now. Dave Stieb has not been elected into the Hall of Fame. I also loved the estimate! (Age 21-342d, On May 3, 1978 Bobby Mattick, then the director of player development for the Toronto Blue Jays, and Blue Jay scout Al LaMacchia were stationed near the stands on the first-base side in a little ball park in Charleston, Ill., when the visiting centerfielder jogged in to pitch the sixth inning. Search Details, Dave Stieb's Phone #, Address & More Stieb pitches quickly, partly because of his restless nature, partly because the fast pace upsets many hitters and partly because his fielders stay more alert when the game is moving along briskly. Baseball Primer (later Baseball Think Factory). . Might be my favorite thing Jon Bois has ever done. Many historical player head shots courtesy of David Davis. He has the same delivery today as he had then. Both Kyle & Travis worked quickly the second day", "Jay youre wise & lucky to have a crew like Danny, Travis & Corey", "Employees are always on time, courteous and do a wonderful job. I have fun with it.". Dave Stieb is a building contractor and plays electric guitar. "He comes at you and has good control," says Lachemann. "He thanked me for my apology," says Stieb. Keep up the excellent work! Stieb's parentsPete, a San Jose general contractor, and Pat, a delivery-woman for the San Jose Mercuryhadn't allowed either Dave or his older brother, Steve, a former minor league catcher, to pitch in youth baseball. We have tools and resources that can help you use sports data. 2/2: In January 1987, Dave Stieb was coming off his worst season, in stark contrast to having won the ERA title in 1985. Please consider upgrading to a Pro accountfor less than a couple bucks a month, youll get cool additional features like all-time and annual stats pages (example), the ability to select (and filter by) your favorite streaming services, and no ads! . Dave Stieb Stats, Fantasy & News. In the past I have always prefaced my Jon Bois reviews by saying I don't even like baseball, I don't even watch football. Well, this is a guy who had never stepped on a pitchers mound in his life until age 20. He struck me out in the first inning on a slider that kind of backed up.". ", Stieb pitched at Triple-A Syracuse in 1998 on his way back to the Blue Jays. I said, 'What are you shaking your head yes for? Says Martinez: "He threw a home run pitch to Greg Luzinski in Chicago, and as the ball cleared the fence, Dave threw his hands up in the air and looked at me as if to say, 'How could you call that stupid pitch?' David Andrew Stieb was born on July 22, 1957, in Santa Ana, California. Stieb wound up at 176-137 with a 3.44 ERA for his career, respectable numbers no doubt in his eyes but not Hall of Fame worthy. Question, Comment, Feedback, or Correction? He seems to have it all. IMDb You are honest and run a professional business", "Service is outstanding. After the comeback, he closed the book on baseball. ", "Jesse & CJ went above and beyond expectations. I would recommend your company to anyone who is looking to have a painting job done and wants to work with reliable, competitively prices professionals", "Thank you so much for a job well done - you are experts in all aspects of painting and decorating, and we look forward to working with you in the future", "Our house looks beautiful - excellent craftsmanship. Mastercraft does a very professional job. He insists he does not compare himself to the others. He had such a desire to excel. We have always been pleased with every job and will continue to use your services for any painting needs inside & out", "You exceeded our expectations!! When he took the ball for his first major league start, Stieb had pitched, counting college baseball, a grand total of 216 innings in his lifetime. Thank you for the opportunity.'". It sounds stupid, even admitting that.". Stieb came to the Instructional League with two pitches, a "heavy" fastball that naturally dropped and a slider developed for him by Newman at Southern Illinois and polished by Toronto's minor league pitching instructor, Bob Humphreys. We didn't find out he could pitch until April 1. The Jays offered him a shot to return in 1999 and work out of the bullpen. I was fortunate to have players around me who could deal with all that. It's a funny thing, but most converted infielders and outfielders have good control, especially infielders. I'm all self-taught from friends and books. Dependable, detail oriented, workers communicate well with the owner, and site cleanup is very good", "I would like to thank you for making the exterior painting project of my home a more than tolerable experience. My house looks awesome and I smile every time I pull in or out of the driveway. But if you had to look at everything, I think I was the best.. Many thanks to him. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Born: In the next one he'll be a . Very friendly and do quality work", "John's work far exceeded our expectation! They were very professional at all times", "Quality work, good crew, glad we selected MasterCraft", "I cant think of one thing, the crew that worked on this job was very professional. Made by fans in Aotearoa New Zealand. He had an ERA+ of 122 and a FIP of 3.82. "I was almost naive enough to think, 'Oh, if I just say yes, I'll be on the big-league team.' Stieb hit only .192 in 35 games for Dunedin that rookie summer, but he was 2-0 with a 2.08 ERA in 26 innings. By Wins Above Average, the chasm between Stieb and Morris in the 80s is even wider: 28.1, best in the decade for Stieb; 9.0, 31st-best for Morris. Ironically, Stieb was not selected to the All-Star squad in '82, thanks to a first half start of 7-10 with a 3.96 ERA. Dave Stieb was one of the best pitchers in baseball in the 1980s and he played for the Toronto Blue Jays for parts of 15 seasons. In his rookie year the right-hander tossed 7 complete games and a shutout while splitting his 16 decisions. Stieb lacked his old velocity, but his sinker was sinking and his slider was breaking. When he was playing in the 1980s, he became interested in real estate through his agent and ever since then has used his savvy to buy and sell residential properties. Some defensive statistics Copyright Sports Info Solutions, 2010-2023. John and Mike were professional, meticulous, kept us informed; we could tell they take pride in their work. I couldnt be happier with the outcome! Sometimes when Stieb pitched, it did not look like he was having fun. He initially retired after the 1993 season due to back problems but after four years of retirement, Stieb rejoined the Blue Jays in 1998, when he pitched in 19 games (three starts) with an ERA+ of 98. Sport as a metaphor for life has been a common theme in Bois documentaries, and here it never is contrived. vs. DET 0.1 IP, 2 H, 0 SO, 0 BB, 1 ER, Rookie Status: Watch our How-To Videos to Become a Stathead, Subscribe to Stathead and get access to more data than you can imagine. On August 29, 2010, Stieb threw the ceremonial first pitch at the Rogers Centre, celebrating the 20th anniversary of his no-hitter game, with the anniversary coming four days after the celebration. "I would not get on stage. He's got no chance.". He takes the same hard stance with other candidates, even friends. [7] After an excellent 1990 season, a series of shoulder and back injuries early in the 1991 season ended his effective pitching years, culminating in a 46 season in 1992 that resulted in his release after the season ended. You even used the high-quality paint I wanted :o) You are well-worth the money in every way", "On time, very professional, everyone comments on how perfect and detailed the job is and how quickly it was completed. . He had made the big leagues in his first full season as a professional and at a position still strange to him. The end of Dave Stieb's career was as poetic, fascinating, and shocking as the rest of it. They were prepared to write the prospect off whenwhat's going on here?he came in to pitch. Stieb drew just 1.4 percent, or seven votes, of 506 votes cast in 2004 and that was that. I still felt I could make it as a hitter.". Stiebs WAR7 (or WAR in his best seven seasons) was 44.5, which is tied for 66th all-time among starters. He glowered and muttered on the mound. You give excellent top service", "Really nice staff - Lisa, Jay, Kyle & Carlos. It's not the big things in life that make you, it's the little things. That's the mark of a good pitcher. Why: A few significant hurdlesremain for Stiebs Hall of Fame case. He goes, 'They use that like crazy now to gauge how good someone really is. He goes, If they looked at that when you were playing, you would have won four Cy Young Awards in a row, Stieb said, noting it would have been 1982 through 1985 when he led for WAR three consecutive years and finished second the fourth. It defined me then, not now.'". MLB.TV Buy MLB.TV Buy At Bat MLB . Disappointed by what they had seen, they nevertheless decided to stay around long enough to see him throw. Always on time and Jays helpfulness selecting the final color", "Always a great job by the crew thats why I always call Mastercraft for my painting needs", "History, professionalism, & quality employees", "Employees do their job well and answer any question you may have. He didn't, in fact, become a full-time pitcher until 1979. How Dave Stieb was robbed of the 1982 AL Cy Young award, and what it's still costing him today - The Athletic How Dave Stieb was robbed of the 1982 AL Cy Young award, and what it's still. A rapt audience of players and coaches gathered. The once-prickly pitcher is not angry any more. That winter Mattick took Stieb to the Florida Instructional League to work exclusively on his pitching. That wasn't in his personality in the past. Gives precise instruction and keeps the workflow moving well. Author: Ron Fimrite. He struck out against Bruce Sutter. Search Details, 2) Social Media Profiles & More Born in Portland, Oregon, he played college football at Port read more. A few have brought their grandkids. Works (John and Mike) were on time, neat and clean, pleasant to be around and very skilled at their job", "Thanks for seeing the job through to get it right", "Pleased that you were reliable and honest about doing the painting while I was away. Dave Stief David P. Stief was American football wide receiver in the National Football League for the St. Louis Cardinals and the Washington Redskins. "When I got out of baseball and I ran into people," he says, "they would always talk about what a great career I had, and they were always amazed that I wasn't outgoing as far as wanting to talk to them about it and say stuff about it. His story could not have been told with more care. "You can't look for one pitch with him," said Cleveland's Andre Thornton after Stieb beat the Indians 4-1 last month. He finished the '79 American League season with eight wins and eight defeats for a team with 109 losses. "I'm all right," he says. "I said right off the bat, 'I don't belong in the Hall of Fame, I did not win enough games and so forth, Stieb told Sporting News in a recent phone interview from Reno, Nev., where hedoes land development work. Stieb fought his way out of a bases-loaded jam in the eighth, striking out Butch Wynegar on three pitches. A case can be made with sabermetrics that Stieb not Jack Morris was the best. Around the time of the book Moneyball, WAR (then called WARP) and Win Shares were invented and I fell in with a group of baseball nerds at a site called Baseball Primer (later Baseball Think Factory) who decided to fix the Hall of Fame's many errors by starting over from scratch and electing the people who really deserved to be inducted, starting in 1898. 7-time MLB All-Star pitcher who played 14 seasons with the Toronto Blue Jays. All I had to worry about was myself. Sorry, the security guard says. They also wanted him to pitch batting practice, so he threw for a few days on flat ground to build up his arm, then decided to try it on a bullpen mound. "Trustworthy, tidy & clean, professional, attentive to customers concerns and questions. background-image:unset; On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. You've made our house look brand new again! Subscribe to Stathead Baseball: Get your first month FREEYour All-Access Ticket to the Baseball Reference Database. "No way he should be thanking me. It was a frustrating time for him, but he learned to pitch his way out of it by moving the ball around. Dave Stieb is a building contractor and plays electric guitar. Kyle and Chris were not only the hardest workers we have seen, but were also courteous, on-time every day, and took great pride in their workmanship. This is the painting contractor you should contact for your project", "Employees who worked on the job had a good attitude about doing a good job", "Good job as always. All Rights Reserved. A few years ago, he joined two friends in a construction firm. Welcome to Captain Ahab: The Story of Dave Stieb, part two of a four-part series.Written and directed by Jon BoisWritten and produced by Alex RubensteinSubscribe: http://goo.gl/Nbabae Enter the Secret Base: http://www.sbnation.com/secret-base Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/secretbase Follow us on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/secretbasesbn Follow us on Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@secretbasesbnCheck out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/9pMHRV Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/NvpZFF Explore SB Nation: http://www.sbnation.com After 1990, Stieb struggled with injuries. They looked at each other quizzically. Stieb had done none until Jones asked him to fill in on an injury-afflicted staff in the middle of the 78 college season. July 22, 1957 "I'd just settled into an apartment in Syracuse after I moved to Triple A when they called me up. Stieb had the uncharitable habit of responding to errors behind him by planting his hands on his hips and fixing the offender with a baleful glare, a mannerism not likely to win him friends on his own team or, for that matter, to inspire improved play. Dave Stieb wrote an autobiography in his late twenties, which is unheard of, but its tough to blame him. Do you have a blog? "How do you not show up to something like that?" Dave Stieb's struggle is universal, gut wrenching, and inspiring. "I said, 'I've come full circle. He is bright and well spoken, if somewhat reticent. My worst problem with the guitar when I first played it, I wanted to play speed metal. In 1993, he played four games with the Chicago White Sox, before finally retiring due to lingering back problems. The Hall of Fame is more indicative of somebody having consistency throughout their whole career and dominating numbers throughout their whole career, he said. Sport as a metaphor for life has been a common theme in Bois documentaries, and here it never is contrived. Learn more. Just because Dave Stieb played north of the border, was snubbed by writers of the time, and, occasionally, played on some bad teams, it doesnt mean that he shouldnt get recognition by the Blue Jays and by the Baseball Hall of Fame for his Hall of Fame-worthy career. Longtime fans know all about that. "All we did," says Mattick, "was try to give him a changeup and work a little on his control. Im very happy with the quality of the work and professionalism of John, Colt & Mike", "An absolutely wonderful job quick, clean, professional and amazingly through! Hall of Fame voting can be brutal in this regard, with numerous fine one-and-done candidates from Stieb to Bobby Grich to Ted Simmons and many others. Mastercraft is very professional & considerate through the entire process", "Mastercraft Paintingwhat a professional company! He'd already done and seen so much. "We didn't want to ruin their arms," says Mrs. Stieb, whose fierce involvement in the careers of her sons is well known to baseball people. The SPORTS REFERENCE and STATHEAD trademarks are owned exclusively by Sports Reference LLC. A Saluki starter was injured. It's like, please, amuse me and string me out for two, three years.". By continuing to use our site, you consent to the placement of cookies on your browser and agree to the terms of our Privacy Policy. Stieb's parentsPete, a San Jose general contractor, and Pat, a delivery-woman for the San Jose Mercuryhadn't allowed either Dave or his older brother, Steve, a former minor league catcher, to pitch in youth baseball. He won the 1985 AL ERA title and finished in the top 10 of AL Cy Young Award voting four times. I felt like I was stuck. "Ive always said they come to work in white uniforms & at the end of the job they still have white uniforms and somehow all the painting or work is finished", "I cant say enough Thanks. Photo by John Lott. On June 29 he started for Toronto against the Baltimore Oriolesand lost. Whereas with other pitchers this would be seen as a sign of weakness, with Stieb it was perceived as the best way to motivate himself to get out of a jam.