Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. A previous report noted, in stunning news, that the killer had known Libby for 3-4 months before the murders via social media. Please do not report this due to it discussing a rumor. But that would mean that Becky Patty would have to say that she called the wife. Here are the main things that ALLEGEDLY (no proof guys, just what I received) stood out to me: 1) I got three names, of which, per your instruction, I will not provide here. Brad was a suspect for a while, and one of the detectives working on the case even stated off the record that he thought Brad did it. Enough is enough. 21:06 GMT 30 Oct 2022 I live in Pennsylvania and have been interested in this case since the time it happened. Thank you! 12) Buried clothing of his stained with the girls blood on his property! These people are from all over the country and have expertise in all sorts of different areas. New Delphi suspect sketch released on 4/22/19. He took it with him in some sort of hunting pack? Staging- by definition means they were placed/posed pre or post mortem a certain way. Try harder. What would be Mr X reason for leaving them there? Ok how on Earth do they know that BG shot 43 seconds of audio unless that rumor about sending the crime film to the phones is true? Important friendships: Very casual friend of Mike Patty, father of one of the girl victims. Ive seen some FB exchanges from BP where like you say, she appears to be defending Mr X or at least in denial that he could be a suspect. I guess one thought about the cops searching for videos, and I dont know the specific wording but could it be they are looking for businesses or residences that have security cameras? The voice was a good match, the clothes looked familiar, and the walk was dead on. However, there was one little problem. Same with Evansdale probably too. By Do the searchers who found the bodies know if they were posed? This person is externalizing their pain into rage and projecting it outwards at the world. The unusual position concepts of posing and staging a murder victim hav Isnt that logical. I would like to know if he has any motorcycle club affiliation, especially regarding a certain outfit with a reputation to be feared around that area? And I happen to be trained as a Journalist. Find these clothes, they will be what solves this! They told us that Kegan Kline was not involved. Investigators have never revealed how the girls died or disclosed details about the crime scene. Williams was a little quieter but open with her friends and hoping to go into . Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. Robert, I believe Mr. X has an ex-wife. Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. James Chadwell, 43, was added as a suspect in 2021 after he was arrested and convicted for luring a nine-year-old girl to his home where he sexually assaulted and strangled her in his basement,20 miles from where Abby and Libby were murdered. You can't obtain things through FOIA that would interfere with an ongoing investigation nor would they just be posted somewhere for this person to get. In the first four years, two LE officers only affirmed one rumor each. The February 2017 killings . Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around. Yes, they would be looking for it, because if you know computers etc. He was charged with child molestation, and was linked to the Delphi murders because of his strong resemblance to the man in the Delphi video, and a preliminary police sketch investigators had circulated of the suspect. Several LE officials have said that Abby had a phone, whether with her or not is not known. The 2017 murder of Abby and Libby became notorious after investigators released chilling footage the girls recorded of a man following and approaching them across the Manon High Bridge. Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. He's charged with two counts of murder and has entered a not guilty plea. Garrett Kirts: Local man, all around run of the mill bad person. Affidavit gives new updates on Dephi murders The March 17, 2017, affidavit sheds lights on the crime scene. And if it was 43 seconds, it would be on Libbys phone! The sketch of the younger man is the catfish of the 19 year old boy used to lure in Libby from Snapchat. Following the identification of a suspect in the Delphi murder, extensive discussion about the case and purportedly leaked texts from that terrible night erupted online. Required fields are marked *. Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. In particular, user/tobor is excellent. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. Not sure of the significance here. 13, 2017. $20/lifetime membership. The truth is that some of the things LE said in that conference are true. Garrett said he's solved homicide cases that way, because typically a perpetrator buys a gun legally near his or her home, he said. Please do not share any sources that discuss the origin of the rumor and stick to the topic of the post. Let us know if you want to join the private sleuthing site where we can talk about this stuff in much greater detail than we do out here. Instead they were penetrated with inanimate objects, which, last time I checked, do not cause pregnancy. I seem like the nicest guy youve met. is that creepy guy still following us?. I cant tell you how many searches I participated in when I was in uniform for kids this age. Recently, multiple local sources with knowledge have opened up to share that this was a hit ordered by a very powerful businessman who runs a criminal operation that some say is akin to a mafia-style family outfit. I have no idea either way, but its just something that has bothered me because I dont see him being brought up nearly as much as some others who have had little to no connection to this case. Finally, after five long years, the Indiana State Police has charged a 50-year-old local man with the Delphi murders of two teenage best friends, Libby German and Abby Williams. Leave this poor man alone, for Gods sake. And if Mr. X was being tried today and I was on the jury, I would certainly vote to acquit. In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. The police cant prevent private citizens from searching on their own, and its my understanding that many did. We obtained this document via a public records request. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I also have to disagree with you about your criticism of the police for calling off the search at 3 AM. Of course, we know now that they were killed but as far as LE was concerned, that very night, those girls were alive and may have been in desperate need of assistance. Others close to the victims, who I will not name, have channeled their grief into rage and lashing out at everyone around them. Richard Allen, 50, was charged with the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi, Ind., in February 2017. In the years before his arrest, Miller had left numerous notes in public places saying the killer of Tinsley would strike again. Unverified but Likely. He killed at least five people, specializing in young women. No one knows if he did this crime or not. FBI agent believed bodies 'staged' in Delphi murders | wthr.com Delphi murder investigators focus on social media profile Watch on Who is the creator behind anthony_shots' fake profile? Investigators tracked Logans activities on the day of the murders and determined he was not forthcoming. Libby's father, Derrick, makes them pancakes for breakfast. I have the images but Im not sure they are accurate. Neither Kegan nor Tony Kline can be placed at the bridge on that day or on any other day for that matter. But it's just speculation at this point, because nothing has been confirmed. ABC News Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed. I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. Lawyered up, not talking. To be fair, two other men were also searching Rons land that night and they didnt find anything either, so it looks like those girls were pretty hard to miss. Yes, I think Mr. X did this crime. Any context? The girls hand was wrapped around the knife to make it appear that she was stabbing herself. Now, that does NOT necessarily indicate staging. We know he had binoculars with him and he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman who had spotted them with binoculars. If you have heard about this case and wish to discuss it, feel free. We have no idea why the order was issued. If he left, LE might tow it or search it. They dont have enough on the main suspect him to take him to trial, but they enough to think did it. The two dates - 2/13/2017 & 2/13/2012 are the same in numerology (16): 2+1+3+2+0+1+7 = 16 and 7+1+3/+2+0+1+2 = 16. This makes absolutely no sense at all. The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up. This claims are quite dubious and we dont suggest anyone put any weight into them. FSG is at the trails every day. Delphi, Indiana from at least 1984-2021. I hope he doesnt read here but I knew a Facebook group mod who was in contact with him and she felt he was either gay, an effeminate man, or a Beta, as she put it. Actually there are four suspects in this case and we are not naming any of them. Mike Patty: Just stop, ok? Ill leave it up to you to believe what you want to believe. Give it a rest, dammit! A police chief in Martinez accused the man of committing these crimes, and the man sued the city and won $50,000. There is a rumor of a falling out between the two men at some time before the crime. Probably at least 6 weeks pregnant if the rumors are true. Did he eat? Brad Holder: Brads son, Jason, was Abbys boyfriend. He concurred that a high error rate is normal early in the investigation and he also said that by 4-5 years later, you may well get a much clearer picture of the crime. I found who mr. X is. They said, Hes just a decoy. But we dont know what that means. Children: Two daughters, one ~22, another ~30. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. In addition, we may have more documents. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. If Libby was treated and posed differently it could indicate she was the actual target. Allen's wife confirmed to police that he owns a blue Carhartt jacket, the document said. Lets call this the intuitive hunch of an MI veteran. before that he was at dump and after that he went to fish store. Not sure why that is. Allen was taken into custody and booked into the Carroll County Jail in connection with the horrific crime. The catfishing situation is not what we think. 24/7 coverage of breaking news and live events. I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. It was dusty and disheveled. I am not sure. So he obviously kept a copy of that for himself. Answers to questions about my credibility. People really seem to take him at face value and think that because he is older, hes not capable of committing such a crime. The suspect has since moved back to North Carolina, and young women have begun to disappear from the trails there now. Every podcast is all about them! Police officers announced about the Delphi massacre. You think Im stupid? They are most likely related to one another, but your description of Mr. X confuses the two. These seem to have been packing plant workers in the Delphi area who get transferred over to the Evansdale area for periods of time to work on sister plants over there. SoundCloud.com How to Submit Tips In Delphi Murders Case Watch on The probable cause affidavit did reveal that clothes belonging to the girls were found in a creek south of where their bodies were discovered. The arrest of Allen could be the end of a years-long investigation during which numerous possible leads have led nowhere, and police have remained tight-lipped about details of the case. The only thing I can think of is it was too gruesome, in their mind, to release," Garrett said. was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details. Investigators have long suspected that this man is the girls killer and have praised the girls for documenting the video as evidence. Ages approximate. There are 244 comments there. Good job though, because you confirm much of what Ive seen. 2-13 again. Indiana State Police said in February they knew who killed the girls, but that they had insufficient evidence to make an arrest. The girl could well have been his high school freshman girlfriend. Allen is a married pharmaceutical technician. 'I kill 8-year-old April Marie Tinsley. Investigators also claim Allen forced Abby and Libby down the hill to the spot where they were killed, according to the document. Im not sure I understand what covered means. This seems to be one of the motives for the homicide. Do we know who this is and why he'd have photos? FSG didnt recognize him either, and Im sure that FSG and Mr. X knew each other. Paul, I know exactly what videos you are talking about on YouTube. Meanwhile, Kegan Kline, an Indiana man accused of child exploitation and child pornography, says police told him he was the last person to communicate with one of the girls. We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints. Feel free to post about any unsolved case you think is interesting, high profile preferred. 11) I see his home. Police found the girls' lifeless bodies a short distance from the bridge the following day, near a trail close to the bridge. We suppose if was listening to a police scanner, he could have known that early, but whats the likelihood of Mr. X listening to a police scanner between 5:30-6:30 PM on the day of the crime? Even if somehow she didnt know about some surrounding neighbors, couldnt LE just show her (or FSG or the bickering couple in the park etc,) a pic of Mr. X and get verification that way? The YouTube channel Zav Girl broke down the text messages in a video entitled "Text Messages from the Guy that found Abby and Libby? Crime scene photos leaked? Where did he get the food and what was the food? The manner of death has never been revealed. Kelsi has been cleared. A timeline establishing publicly known. Investigators have been mostly mum on many case details but a redacted warrant provides a glimpse into information surrounding the murder scene, suspect, and victims. Im sure there are instances where its been used as an effective tactic in helping to solve crimes. This is part of what they thought was being said, yes. Also, a copy of the police scanner is available showing that Mr. Xs wife is supposed to be coming to the site to retrieve Mr. Xs truck. See, Im not like how they say at all, am I? They had no history of behavior indicative of disregarding or disrespecting their parents/guardians by running off to a friends house just to show up later. However, I do not believe it was sexually motivated, but believe theres potential for multiple motives. Why on Earth would the killer have a copy of an audio file from Libbys phone! I hope someday this horrendous crime will be solved. Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. Anything that shows they crossed the creek that evening. *The cops refer to cases of scumbag on scumbag shootings as No humans involved or public service killings. Not say that innocent people are killed and hurt in these cases and in some cases the target themselves is completely innocent. , updated BA, Journalism, Cal State University Long Beach, 1981. Particularly this statement. Detectives continue to ask anyone who may have had contact with the screen name anthony_shots to contact law enforcement at abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.comor 765-822-3535. The fact that the mere mention of FSG as anything more than a helpful old man out for a daily stroll is met with such hostility well, that raises all sorts of red flags with me even if the vitriol is coming from true crime enthusiasts on Reddit. Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. Here's the Update in His Case. If comments start getting out of hand please feel free to report, though. The authorities have been purposeful in not disclosing much information about the Delphi Murders. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. But Garrett said he doesn't understand how it took so long for an arrest. Residence at time of crime: Delphi, Indiana since 1984. He has long been presumed to be their killer. Can you explain to me how LE would know that BG filmed his crime if he didnt send that crime footage to the girls phones? It is unclear whether they were referring to Allen or not. Suspect: Ok, you got me. Pay no attention to the first sketch, which looks like a middle aged man, Mr. X. These are the facts about the man LE suspects is BG. This was posted within a Facebook group and the poster stated that it was fine to share with other groups. But we are not naming person. There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. He will crack soon. Numbers 1-4 were told to a retired detective who works with one of our team members us by an LE source close to the investigation. I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. If anyone else is involved they know who it is. The girls bodies were discovered on his property - just1,400 from his house - and it was revealed over the summer that his alibi for the day of the murder did not line up. Would love to join the private group. Little if any good information comes out of these places. Background to the Delphi Murders On Monday, February 13th, 2017, at around 1 pm, Abigail Williams and Liberty German were dropped off near the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana. Forgive me if someone else posted this.but the FBI was called in immediately. Then come email me and I will send you a link to the private group and a password to get you in. In the more than three years since the girls' tragic murders, very little evidence has been released about the case including the cause of death. So who is Mr. X? (Images via the FBI). However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. Are they deliberately lying to us? FSG knew everyone in town. -- New details have come to light in the unsolved Delphi, Indiana, double murder investigation with the publication of a police interview with a man who, according to transcripts . For five years, the murders of 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German have hung over Delphi, ghosts that couldn't be put to rest. This had been done on other occasions, at least one other we know of in the 2000s. So Mr. X did not ask him to search for his keys, he was officially asking to search for the girls according to ol Ronny boy. Note that it was parked in head first. Im not stupid. Also, I dont know what to make of this. It would have to be a day or two before people would think to look. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspects in the case, have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like, and have recently figured out the motive. Cop: Come on, man, we know you did it. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. The girls sleep in because they had been up late. Not important? Face is in quotes because it's likely my mind just making a rational picture out of sticks and tree trunks. I read your recent blogs about the Delphi murders, and you have a ton of info. The murdered girls, who attended Delphi Community Middle School where they played saxophone and volleyball together, had visited the bridge before the day they died. I have no idea why shes doing this, but its not because she killed her own sister. The profile was used from 2016 to 2017 on platforms including Snapchat and Instagram and used photos of a known male model, portraying him as being extremely wealthy and owning numerous sports cars. It has been said there were dolls and stuffed animals around the girls. So when LE said the younger sketch is the one who committed the crime, they were correct! At this point, they dont even have enough for an arrest. Im sure the guy does look at posts and stuff which is creepy as all hell. It is high time this comes to fruition. I would think a crime like this would occur and the perpetrator would be gone. Killer? When investigators got that device, they found that many files had been deleted and social media apps uninstalled. No charges have been issued against Miller in relation to the Delphi case. Its at his home on a shelf! Drunkard perhaps. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. Investigators believe the man is the killer. Are we making up lies about getting information from police when we actually have no contacts with them? Im seeing in between. Hes a mechanic by trade, but used to drive trucks and works for a local trucking company with a high profile. Theyve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. Or wet sneaker. We all go through shit in our lives, but if she wants to stop making enemies, she can stop picking fights. I see hot, humid conditions. Theres something different about this casing, it stood out to me. Also we have excellent sources inside the police with officers who are very close to the investigation. I do not feel that this has anything to do with anything. Your email address will not be published. A subpoena for an IP address led to another address in Peru, Indiana, and a second search warrant found Kline and his father there. Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders and Related Matters Now Officially Proven! They talked to Ron and he allowed them to park on her land. We currently feel that this is the best explanation of the facts. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. An asterisk means the information is proven via LE information leaked to us. Good advice. I have an official case document here in my hand. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name.